Sunday, 24 June 2012

In our time: Marco Polo

On BBC Radio 4 Friday, 25 May 2012 Melvyn Bragg discussed the topic " Marco Polo"
Melvyn Bragg and his guests discuss the celebrated Venetian explorer Marco Polo. In 1271 Polo set off on an epic journey through Asia and he was away for more than twenty years. When he returned, he told extraordinary tales of his adventures. The Travels of Marco Polo was one of the most popular books produced in the age before printing. For centuries it was seen as the first and best account of life in the mysterious East, but today the accuracy and even truth of Marco Polo's work is often disputed. Melvyn Bragg is joined by Frances Wood, Lead Curator of Chinese Collections at the British Library; Joan Pau Rubies, Reader in International History at the London School of Economics and Political Science and Debra Higgs Strickland, Senior Lecturer in the History of Art at the University of Glasgow.
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In Our Time: Marco Polo
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Melvyn BraggMelvyn Bragg14:27, Friday, 25 May 2012
Editor's note: In Thursday's programme Melvyn Bragg and his guests discussed Marco Polo. As always the programme is available to listen to online or to download and keep - PMcD
Marco Polo

Hello
Ingrid told me that I was writing too much again. She must be obeyed. She works both for Start The Week and In Our Time and works with ultimate efficiency and patience. (I bet that was hard for you to type out, Ingrid.)
After the programme there was a lot of talk about Kublai Khan. He was thought of as being the greatest Khan. He was compared with Alexander the Great who, of course, had gone into the East but not with goods, with an army, and dropped only when he had no more worlds to conquer. We're told that there is a Muslim Alexander, a Persian Alexander, an Alexander for all seasons, just as there was a Great Khan for all seasons.
Frances Wood is beguiled by Matthew Paris, who seems to have lived in St Albans all his life and yet reached out right across to the edge of Asia with his information. He knew all the stuff about the Khan and he marvels at how knowledge travelled in those early, so-called rather primitive, medieval days.
The most sensational discovery for me was that the reason why the Mongols stopped at the gates of Vienna was not to do with any superior force, but was because the Great Khan died, and they all turned to go back across the plains and the steppes to be there at his funeral and to help choose his successor. So, we are not Mongol because of the death of the Great Khan.
The Bodleian text of Marco Polo is highly recommended by everyone, especially the illustrations.
London has hit a heat wave and, Murphy's Law, I was so hedged in by work on the imminent renaissance of The South Bank Show and a serious argument with - well, let's leave it at that. Not an individual but ...
So it's been pounding pavements, hitting phones, texting, emailing, and trying to get numbers and addresses and so on. But no bad life at all. Cathy Haslam, with whom I set up a small company to continue to make the television programmes I wanted to make, and I celebrated an anniversary with a quick lunch. But now an evening of relief: off to Michael Frayn's publication party in a garden.
Best wishes
Melvyn Bragg

Comments

  • Comment number1.

     
    The programme interestingly threw up the truth or fiction of The Travels of Marco Polo or whether he even existed,also the several different versions of the book.I thought of another comparable book,The Travels of
    Sir John Mandeville written about 1556,known to the great explorers and
    navigators of the period.'Sir John Mandeville' claimed to be an English Knight,who travelled between 1322-1356 and served with the Sultan of Egypt and the Great Khan.

    Much of Mandeville's matter, particularly in Asiatic geography and history, is taken from the Historiae Orientis of Hetoum, an Armenian of princely family, who became a monk of the Praemonstrant order, and in 1307 dictated this work on the East, in the French tongue at Poitiers, out of his own extraordinary acquaintance with Asia and its history in his own time.

    No passage in Mandeville can be plausibly traced to Marco Polo, with one exception. This is where he states that at Hormuz the people during the great heat lie in water – a circumstance mentioned by Polo, though not by Odoric. We should suppose it most likely that this fact had been interpolated in the copy of Odoric used by Mandeville, for if he had borrowed it directly from Polo he would have borrowed more.
  • Comment number2.

     
    In his preface the compiler calls himself a knight, and states that he was born and bred in England, of the town of St Albans.Although the book is real, it is widely believed that 'Sir John Mandeville' himself was not. Common theories point to a Frenchman by the name of Jehan a la Barbe (or other possibilities). At least part of the personal history of Mandeville is mere invention. Nor is any contemporary corroboration of the existence of such a Jehan de Mandeville known. It is in fact beyond reasonable doubt that the travels were in large part compiled by a Liège physician, known as Johains a le Barbe or Jehan a la Barbe, otherwise Jehan de Bourgogne. At a very early date the coincidence of Mandeville's stories with those of Odoric,a friar, was recognized, insomuch that a manuscript of Odoric which is or was in the chapter library at Mainz begins with the words: Incipit Itinerarius fidelis fratris Odorici socii Militis Mendavil per Indian; licet hic ille prius et alter posterius peregrinationem suam descripsit. Sir Thomas Herbert calls Odoric "travelling companion of our Sir John"; and Samuel Purchas, most unfairly, whilst calling Mandeville, next to Polo, "if next ... the greatest Asian traveller that ever the world had", insinuates that Odoric's story was stolen from Mandeville's. Mandeville himself is crafty enough, at least in one passage, to anticipate criticism by suggesting the probability of his having travelled with Odoric. Much of Mandeville's matter, particularly in Asiatic geography and history, is taken from the Historiae Orientis of Hetoum, an Armenian of princely family, who became a monk of the Praemonstrant order, and in 1307 dictated this work on the East, in the French tongue at Poitiers, out of his own extraordinary acquaintance with Asia and its history in his own time.
  • Comment number3.

     
    There is the fact that Polos writings were mercentile in origin,whereas Mandeville’s sources are usually from religious travel writers,which he seemingly uses to augment his own experiences. Mandeville’s assertion that Jerusalem was at the centre of the world is an old belief. What is often consistently presented as truth is in fact fiction.One notes how different Polo,Odoric and Mandeville are:Odoric plods worthily on his way,Polo is a keen and accurate observer,and Mandeville is the creator of a memorable and fanciful trope.Despite this these books opened up the West to other belief systems,opened up the known world to investigation
    made up as they are from fiction,experience and quotation and embellishment from other sources.For this they remain valuable.
  • Comment number4.

     
    Good programme, I thought.
    The Great Khan whose death stopped the Mongols storming Vienna was, of course, Ögödei - son of Genghis, or Chinggis.
    Polo does write about Xanadu - Shangdu - the stately pleasure dome of Coleridge's verse. It is a vivid description.
    As for the 'golden table' that saw Polo travel across the region with impunity - that is, of course, a 'golden tablet'.
    It was a passport, not a piece of furniture.
    He not only carried one, he wrote about them. They were known as 'p’ai-tse' in Chinese, and 'paiza' to Persian chroniclers.
    Good wishes,
    Rob
  • Comment number5.

     
    Dear Melvin Bragg,

    You are doing a terrific job educating us. I am more interested in the scientific side of your efforts. You have a magical way of making them talk sense. In this respect could you get someone to explain how the periodic table works?
    Douglas Finney
  • Comment number6.

     
    Marco Polo and his daughters left important maps regarding his travels to the Far East and ancient America. The doctrinaire historians want to bury this guy, because he is a threat to the fantasy that Columbus discovered America. The Library of Congress even has one of the Marco Polo Maps that was recopied in about 1560 AD. I know about the date, because I requested a radiocarbon test on the Marco Polo letters. Check out "Rossi Collection" or www.marcopolovoyages. There is also a new book about the Marco Polo maps available from Amazon called "Marco Polo's Daughters" (by Gunnar Thompson, 2011). We know from the "letters" that Marco Polo was in ancient America, because he mentions little-known facts, such as the "wooden swords" of the Aztecs. Marco was required by the Venetian authorities to surrender all of his maps and journals about China when he returned to Venice in 1295. Much of what he saw in the Far East, including Chinese firearms (the harquebus), were regarded as vital commercial or military secrets. On the Marco Polo Maps, he placed Japan in the exact location; whereas in his Travelogue, he said it was 500 miles east of China--which is in the wrong place. Thus, odd entries or ommissions in the Book were due partly to the censoring of material he was allowed to dictate in Genoa.
  • Comment number7.

     
    Why is anyone still raising the question of whether Marco Polo went to China or not? The issue was settled long ago. Igor de Rachewiltz published an article entitled 'Marco Polo went to China' in 1997! Morris Rossabi has also slated Frances Wood's poorly-researched book about Marco Polo. Contrary to what Gunnar Thompson has written in his absurd comment, the great majority of scholars have no doubt that Marco Polo did indeed go to China (though certainly NOT to America!). Why does the list of further reading for this programme omit the most important book written about Marco Polo during the last fifty years - Stephen G. Haw's 'Marco Polo's China' (published by Routledge)? According to Peter Jackson, who reviewed this book for the 'Bulletin of the School of Oriental and African Studies', it surely settles the controversy, in Marco Polo's favour. He went to China, and he did more or less everything that he claimed to have done. There are only a few errors and a few exaggerations in his account, which is overwhelming truthful and accurate.
  • Comment number8.

     
    A couple of expert views on Frances Wood’s ‘Did Marco Polo go to China?’ -

    Morris Rossabi (author of ‘Khubilai Khan: his life and times’):

    “Dr. Wood's lack of expertise on the Yuan dynasty in particular and the Mongol empire in general results in misinterpretations and mistakes. Because she is dependent on secondary works and has scarcely consulted primary Chinese, Persian, etc., sources, she is not as well informed as she ought to be on Yuan and Mongol history.”

    Igor de Rachewiltz (translator and annotator of ‘The Secret History of the Mongols’, etc.):

    “I regret to say that F.W's [Frances Wood] book falls short of the standard of scholarship that one would expect in a work of this kind. Her book can only be described as deceptive, both in relation to the author and to the public at large. Questions are posted that, in the majority of cases, have already been answered satisfactorily...her attempt is unprofessional; she is poorly equipped in the basic tools of the trade, i.e., adequate linguistic competence and research methodology...and her major arguments cannot withstand close scrutiny. Her conclusion fails to consider all the evidence supporting Marco Polo's credibility.”

In Photos: Mes Aynak, an ancient Buddhist Monastery


Mes Anyak stele
Mes Anyak steleCredit: Jaroslav PoncarA newly discovered stele from Mes Aynak, in Afghanistan, reveals a depiction of a prince and monk. It dates back at least 1,600 years and possibly earlier. It is believed to show a young Gautama Siddhārtha Śākyamuni, the founder of Buddhism, at a time when he was still a prince living in a palace. The stele was found beneath the decorative arch of a secondary stupa, a commemorative monument.


Tepe Kafiriat Monastery

Tepe Kafiriat MonasteryCredit: US Embassy, Kabul Afghanistan, CC Attribution NoDerivs 2.0 GenericSo far the finds include three or four monasteries and an ancient mine, with associated habitations, going back to the time of the Kushan Empire. There are also at least two small forts. This image shows the corridor of the Tepe Kafiriat monastery.
Tepe Kafiriat Monastery
Tepe Kafiriat MonasteryCredit: US Embassy, Kabul Afghanistan, CC Attribution NoDerivs 2.0 GenericA view of Tepe Kafiriat, one of the monasteries of ancient Mes Aynak, many key archaeological finds are located here, including the newly discovered stele.
Buddha
BuddhaCredit: US Embassy, Kabul Afghanistan, CC Attribution NoDerivs 2.0 GenericA reclining Buddha, whose feet are still visible, that is located at the Tepe Kafiriat monastery. The artistry at the site would have been very rich in ancient times.
Central Court Ruins
Central Court RuinsCredit: US Embassy, Kabul Afghanistan, CC Attribution NoDerivs 2.0 GenericThe central court of the ruins of the Kafiriat monastery at Mes Aynak, archaeological work is underway.
Kafiriat Monastery Stupa
Kafiriat Monastery StupaCredit: US Embassy, Kabul Afghanistan, CC Attribution NoDerivs 2.0 GenericAn example of a stupa at the Kafiriat monastery found at Mes Aynak. These ceremonial monuments held sacred relics related to the Gautama Buddha or other important individuals. There are several stupas at the site, the newly discovered stele was found beside one of them.
Kafiriat Monastery
Kafiriat MonasteryCredit: US Embassy, Kabul Afghanistan, CC Attribution NoDerivs 2.0 GenericA niche, from a stupa, that would have been used to hold a statue.
Stamped Pottery
Stamped PotteryCredit: US Embassy, Kabul Afghanistan, CC Attribution NoDerivs 2.0 GenericThis piece of stamped pottery features a depiction of a pomegranate.
Buddha Stele
Buddha SteleCredit: S.K. Vemmer/Department of State CC Attribution NoDerivs 2.0 GenericAnother example of a stele found at Mes Aynak. This one appears to depict a Buddha (can’t tell if it’s Gautama) in robes. It was put on display, along with other artifacts from the site, at an exhibit at the Afghanistan National Museum in Kabul.
Monk's Quarters
Monk's QuartersCredit: US Embassy, Kabul Afghanistan, CC Attribution NoDerivs 2.0 GenericArchitecture is unearthed in what is believed to be a monk’s quarters at Mes Aynak.

Source of Light
Source of LightCredit: US Embassy, Kabul Afghanistan, CC Attribution NoDerivs 2.0 GenericA tiny oil lamp found at the site.
Source: Livescience.com












Saturday, 23 June 2012

"Guardians" ransack ancient archaeological site in Uzbekistan


A bulldozer has removed a cultural layer at Suyritepa; photo by Uznews.net
June 21, 2012
Guardians ransack ancient archaeological site
In the Ahangaran Valley officers of the inspection department of the Uzbek main scientific and production directorate for the preservation of monument have ransacked a well-known archaeological site at Suyritepa.

“Excavations” using a bulldozer at the Suyritepa township of the mediaeval state of Ilak, a major economic and cultural centre on the Great Silk Road, were conducted in May this year, but archaeologists have learnt about this only now thanks to residents of nearby villages.

“We know that our region has ancient settlements, which is why fellow villagers find various objects of antiquity from time to time,” a local shepherd called Mahmud said.

When he saw a bulldozer remove the surface layer of ground on a hill, he decided to check it out. One of those present showed an ID issued to a certain Server Ashirov and said that they were conducting excavations. After that he drove the shepherd from the site and warned against approaching it again.

It turned out that Ashirov is the director of the monument inspection department of the Uzbek main scientific and production directorate for the preservation of monument; archaeologists believe this department abused its power grossly.

“A bulldozer ploughs the surface layer of ground, and a man with a metal detector, instructed by Ashirov,
Local residents dag up a burial ground at Suryritepa; photo by Uznews.net
 walks behind it to scan the ground for metal items, above all, coins,” a Tashkent-based archaeologist explained.

He said the robbers used a similar method because they knew archaeologists abandoned the site as they did not plan research at the site in the near future. This means that the trace left by the bulldozer will be covered by grass very quickly and time will hide the trace of crime.

“The ransacked citadel is a rectangular hill covering one hectare and has nine towers,” the archaeologist said. “Around the citadel the ancient township covers 4.5 square kilometres. Without doubt the hill covers the ruins of perhaps the Angren river valley’s largest township of the state of Ilak.”

Initially, the township attracted archaeologists’ attention by its rich “recoverable material” of objects of antiquity – ceramic pieces to labour instruments and coins that are practically lying on the surface. The material was easily accessible and did not require excavations. Moreover, it showed
At the moment cows and sheep show greater interest in Suyritepa than the Academy of Sciences of Uzbekistan does; photo by Uznews.net
 that the site still hid a great amount of archaeological wealth.

At the same time, serious and fundamental research has not yet been conducted at Suyritepa.

“Some local residents, in contrast to researchers, did not stay aside from the story,” a local resident called Ismail said. “They started excavating burial grounds for personal ends, which results in the discovery of three caches of coins and crockery. I do not know where it has all ended up, not in the museum that is for sure – you know yourself why.”

Archaeologists said that objects of antiquity had high material value on the black market. They complained about ransacks and destructions of cultural monuments to prosecutors and local administrations in Angren and Ahangaran, but robberies are continuing.

Moreover, now monuments are robbed by those who are supposed to guard them. This causes particular concern, because robbers are not amateurs but professionals.

Uznews.net

Massive Gold Trove originating from Central Asia?


Photo Gallery: A Mysterious Treasure Trove
Photos
DPA
A 3,300-year-old treasure trove of gold found in northern Germany has stumped German archeologists. One theory suggests that traders transported it thousands of miles from a mine in Central Asia, but other experts are skeptical.

Archeologists in Germany have an unlikely new hero: former Chancellor Gerhard Schröder. They have nothing but praise for the cigar-smoking veteran Social Democratic politician.
Why? Because it was Schröder who, together with Russian leader Vladimir Putin, pushed through a plan to pump Russian natural gas to Western Europe. For that purpose, an embankment 440 kilometers (275 miles) long and up to 30 meters (100 feet) wide had to be created from Lubmin, a coastal resort town in northeastern Germany, to Rehden in Lower Saxony near the northwestern city of Bremen.
The result has been a veritable cornucopia of ancient discoveries. The most beautiful find was made in the Gessel district of Lower Saxony, where 117 pieces of gold were found stacked tightly together in a rotten linen cloth. The hidden treasure is about 3,300 years old.
The 1.8 kilograms (4 pounds) of gold, which was found in a field, consists of some jewelry, but primarily spirals of gold wire, which are tied together in chains consisting of 10 spirals each. This isn't jewelry, but an ancient form of gold bullion.
Traveling the Continent
When Johanna Wanka, the Lower Saxony science minister, unveiled the treasure to the press in February, the story became even more surprising. She explained that testing done at the University of Hanover had revealed that the gold had come from a mine in Central Asia.
"Using a mass spectrometer, we examined more than 20 trace elements, allowing us to determine the fingerprint of the metal," explains chemist Robert Lehmann. "The gold vein must have been created deep in the mountains of Kazakhstan, Afghanistan or Uzbekistan over a period of millions of years."
Lower Saxony can now consider itself the owner of what Wanka calls the "find of the century." Merchants trading in luxury goods used to travel across the entire continent, says state archeologist Henning Hassmann. "Trips of 10,000 kilometers were nothing to them."
He suspects that the gold found in Gessel was initially brought in caravans from the mountains to the nearby Indus Valley, where a giant riparian culture flourished until about 1,800 B.C. From there, says Hassmann, the merchandise was sent by ship to Mesopotamia and, after that, somehow reached the northern flatlands.
'Pretty Bold'
But is that really the right explanation? Not everyone has faith in Lehmann's analysis of the gold. Some say that, despite the advanced testing equipment at his disposal, Lehmann is "inexperienced." Ernst Pernicka, an archeologist who studies ancient metallurgical processes in the southwestern city of Tübingen -- known for his groundbreaking metal studies on the famous Nebra sky disk -- calls Lehmann's conclusions "highly speculative."
Because almost nothing is known about ancient mining in Central Asia, Lehmann could only compare the Gessel find with a few Scythian gold coins. To arrive at such ambitious theories on the basis of such scant facts is "pretty bold," says Gregor Borg, an expert on gold deposits at the University of Halle in eastern Germany.
Despite the criticism, Lehmann remains undeterred, noting his use of first-class equipment. With these devices, he says, he can also perform confocal white-light microscopy and laser ablation ICP mass spectrometry. "We're counting individual atoms here," he says.
Who is right?
The Asia Connection
As audacious as the Asia connection seems, it could be true. There is plenty of evidence that human greed led to globalized trade more than 3,000 years ago. The ancient Egyptians' folding-chair designs reached Sweden, and magnificent Spondylus shells from the Mediterranean have been found as far away as Bavaria.
Valuable metals such as tin, copper, gold and silver were a favorite among long-distance traders, who dragged them across the continent in rucksacks or on oxcarts. Ötzi the Iceman, a natural mummy found in the Ötztal Alps, probably traded in gold and flint, and was murdered in the process.
But did the merchants' extensive trading networks reach as far as the remote mines in Central Asia as long ago as the 2nd century B.C.? It certainly would have been worthwhile. A massive gold-and-tin belt extends from the Altai Mountains to the Aral Sea. A prehistoric gold mine, the largest in the central Caucasus region, was also recently discovered in Armenia.
This could explain the origins of the myth of the Argonauts, who in the story sail through the Black Sea to steal the Golden Fleece.
Whether the treasure found inland from the North Sea coast truly originated in the faraway steppes remains disputable for now. Lehmann has invited his critics to attend a presentation in Hanover on July 13, when he intends to elucidate the details of his research. "It will be a closed meeting," he says.
Apparently Lehmann doesn't want anyone to lose face in the dispute over the prehistoric gold.
Source: Der Spiegel

New Terra-Cotta Warriors—And Unprecedented Armor



Source: National Geographic